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Croquet - thal - 04-21-2007 08:47 AM

Hello John, and everyone. I have been getting interested in a serious
effort to master Lua, and have been very impressed with your work on
murgaLua, John.

I'm also interested in Second Life and Open Metaverse, and was hoping
to apply Lua to those environments, since it is such an elegant language.

The problem with Second Life is that the grid is not open source;
the problem with Open Metaverse is that the project seems to be at
a standstill. Nevertheless I was resolved to attempt some kind of Lua
application in this area, with the aim of some open and more scalable solution
- until yesterday, when I saw this video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9055536763288165825&q=croquet

The first half is only of historical interest, and can be ignored. The second half
is a demo of Croquet. The kicker is in the final MINUTE - when the size of the
entire system (including its own 'operating system') is revealed: 2.8Megs.
And they estimate they can reduce that by A FACTOR OF TEN within a year.

For the moment, I am in a state of shock Smile Any comments?

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Thal


RE: Croquet - thal - 04-23-2007 09:17 AM

Well, no takers so far Smile I apologise if this thread is OT and perhaps even less than polite in this context, but I have been exploring Croquet further and it seems to me the most exciting peice of software I've seen since Mosaic. There is even a potential role for Lua:

http://www.croquetconsortium.org/index.php/Road_Map
"The idea is that, through a simple and familiar interface, end users will be able to access the power of Croquet technology easily and efficiently and develop compelling applications and simulations (and without the need to program in Squeak)."

The project is still in the development stage, obviously, but does anyone think it is a candidate for inclusion in a future version of Puppy Linux? It's nothing less than the *real* Web 2.0!

Check this out:

http://www.slashdong.org/archives/2007/04/the_naughytizing_of_croquet_1.php

and this:

http://www.funkencode.com/spacedemo/RAPDemo2Large.mov

Think 1994: AOL=SecondLife, Croquet=WWW

OK, I won't bother you all any more if it's not of interest here. Any thoughts, John?


RE: Croquet - iGame3D - 04-23-2007 04:01 PM

Pretty interesting, I sent a link to a friend, and I'm trying it out right now.
Very neat.
Lets bring lua to it and see what happens.
As soon as I learn enough lua.


RE: Croquet - thal - 04-24-2007 10:38 AM

iGame3D Wrote:
Pretty interesting, I sent a link to a friend, and I'm trying it out right now.
Very neat.
Lets bring lua to it and see what happens.
As soon as I learn enough lua.


Hi iGame3D, I was beginning to think perhaps I was the only person logging in here! The info on how Croquet works is mindblowing! For the time being, I'm switching my language learning efforts to Squeak - and Lojban:

http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Home+Page&bl

It looks to me like Ben Goertzel of Novamente has dollar signs in his eyes since he has got his new position a couple of weeks ago at http://www.singinst.org, so I'm not hopeful about the future of http://sourceforge.net/projects/agisim/ but he had some very good ideas on languages, AI and 3D, if you're interested. Would write more... but undergoing remote OS upgrade... damn OSes Smile

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Thal


RE: Croquet - JohnMurga - 04-24-2007 08:00 PM

thal Wrote:
Hi iGame3D, I was beginning to think perhaps I was the only person logging in here! The info on how Croquet works is mindblowing! For the time being, I'm switching my language learning efforts to Squeak - and Lojban:

http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Home+Page&bl


You where the only one logging in ... I was away :-)

VERY interesting, doing some reading on it now ...

Cheers
JohnM